Season 4 | Episode 4

The Stakes

The number of things at stake in the climate crisis do not fit inside one episode. It's hard to even fit them inside your mind. Part of what makes the potential losses so hard to grasp is that they're happening at lots of different scales, all at the same time. And as we move back and forth between what's happening out our own backdoors with what we know is happening all around the globe, one thing becomes very clear: there's no separating what we're doing to nature from what we're doing to ourselves.

This is Threshold Season 4: “Time to 1.5.” In this episode, we look at what climate chaos could do to our ability to meet our basic needs and live together in relative harmony and explore what we all stand to lose if we don’t act fast enough.

Listener submissions

A special thanks to all of our listeners who responded to our call for reflections around climate grief. We had more submissions than we were able to fit into the episode, so enjoy this special collection of listener responses.

Original illustration by Sally Deng © 2021.

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Guests

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Sherri Goodman

Sherri Goodman is an experienced leader and senior executive, lawyer and director in the fields of national security, climate change, energy, science, oceans and environment. Goodman is Secretary General of the International Military Council on Climate & Security.

Bruno Rodríguez

Bruno Rodríguez is the founder and leader of Youth for Climate (Jóvenes por el Clima) Argentina, the Argentinian representation of the leading youth movement Fridays For Future.

Dr. Christiane Fröhlich

Dr. Christiane Fröhlich is a research fellow at the GIGA German Institute for Global and Area Studies in Hamburg. She is particularly interested in the intersection between forced migration, global environmental change, and socio-political upheaval, and in related questions of mobility and climate justice.

Featured

The net-zero transition: What it would cost, what it could bring

Report published in McKinsey Sustainability

Global Warming of 1.5ºC

Special report published by IPCC

A Degree of Concern: Why Global Temperatures Matter

Feature piece by Alan Buis, published on NASA's Global Climate Change Website

Yale Climate Opinion Maps 2021

Map and researched published by Yale Program on Climate Change Communication

The Paris Agreement

The Paris Agreement, often referred to as the Paris Accords or the Paris Climate Accords, is an international treaty on climate change, adopted in 2015.

Guest post: Hundreds of planned coal mines ‘incompatible with 1.5C target’

Post by Dr. Ryan Driskell Tate and published by Carbon Brief

Time to 1.5

The Stakes is episode four in Threshold Season 4, Time to 1.5

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Credits

This episode was reported, written and produced by Amy Martin with help from producer Nick Mott and managing editor Erika Janik. Fact checking by Sara Sneath and Nick Mott. Original music by Todd Sickafoose. Episode art by Sally Deng. Cover art by Maggy Contreras at Bahía Design.The rest of the Threshold team is Eva Kalea, Taliah Farnsworth, Shola Lawal, Caysi Simpson, Emery Veilleux, Sam Moore, and Deneen Wiske. Thanks to Hana Carey, Dan Carreno, Luca Borghese, Julia Barry, Kara Cromwell, Katie deFusco, Caroline Kurtz, and Gabby Piamonte.

Special thanks to Judit Hollos, and extra special thanks to all of the listeners who responded to our call for reflections around climate grief.